Well, I did say I was oversimplifying it, didn't I? But either way, athletic ability has nothing to do with why I picked that description. Hell, the Gryffindor team lost for several years in a row before Harry showed up. What I was talking about was the role they play in the school's miniature model of society. They're the charismatic, popular kids who pretty much "run" things.
Also, one thing I've definitely learned since I joined the Marine Corps is that the "dumb jock" stereotype is really quite overplayed. It's not that there isn't SOME truth to it, but for the most part we geeks have taken a few bad experiences and attributed them to an entire class of people, many of whom do not deserve it. Also, can you really say that if the geeks had the "power," they'd treat anyone any better? No matter who they are, high school students are the vilest, most wretched scum humanity has ever produced. If you do associate the jock mentality with bullying however, well, who in Hogwarts were ever worse than the Marauders? They were all Gryffindors.
Besides, even if athletic ability were a factor, quidditch is a special case, since it also relies on magical ability. It would be like going to your average high school and setting up a jocks vs. geeks swordfighting match. The jocks might have some advantage, simply because they're stronger and more aggressive, but many of the geeks are so enamored with swordplay, and jave probably done a few LARPS here and there, so they'd match the jocks' usual advantage in skill and ability. Kinda' like that. But that's irrelevant, because like I said, quidditch isn't why I gave the Gryffindors the "jock" label in the first place.
But either way, whether you like my analogy or not, my main point remains. Comparing the Gryffindors to the Ravenclaws is just... O_o I had several arguments I wanted to make on that front, but Garran already either made, or at least touched upon all of them, so I didn't want to waste my time repeating him. But really, what similarities do you see between the two houses, other than the fact that Hermione could be either? I can't think of any.
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Date: 2007-08-05 04:52 pm (UTC)Also, one thing I've definitely learned since I joined the Marine Corps is that the "dumb jock" stereotype is really quite overplayed. It's not that there isn't SOME truth to it, but for the most part we geeks have taken a few bad experiences and attributed them to an entire class of people, many of whom do not deserve it. Also, can you really say that if the geeks had the "power," they'd treat anyone any better? No matter who they are, high school students are the vilest, most wretched scum humanity has ever produced. If you do associate the jock mentality with bullying however, well, who in Hogwarts were ever worse than the Marauders? They were all Gryffindors.
Besides, even if athletic ability were a factor, quidditch is a special case, since it also relies on magical ability. It would be like going to your average high school and setting up a jocks vs. geeks swordfighting match. The jocks might have some advantage, simply because they're stronger and more aggressive, but many of the geeks are so enamored with swordplay, and jave probably done a few LARPS here and there, so they'd match the jocks' usual advantage in skill and ability. Kinda' like that. But that's irrelevant, because like I said, quidditch isn't why I gave the Gryffindors the "jock" label in the first place.
But either way, whether you like my analogy or not, my main point remains. Comparing the Gryffindors to the Ravenclaws is just... O_o I had several arguments I wanted to make on that front, but Garran already either made, or at least touched upon all of them, so I didn't want to waste my time repeating him. But really, what similarities do you see between the two houses, other than the fact that Hermione could be either? I can't think of any.